Category: Tim Price

Don’t Blame Him, Turn to Him

god-is-totally-sovereignFrom Kenny: Here’s Tim Price serving up another post; wrestling with God’s sovereignty in the midst of our suffering.

“God from all eternity, did, by the most wise and holy counsel of His own will, freely, and unchangeably ordain whatsoever comes to pass…” Westminster Confession of Faith 3.1

Around the time I first became a Christian I was faced with a lot of questions I had no idea how to answer. I was at a community college where I felt very alone in my faith. However, being a new Christian I was pretty fervent in my evangelism and did my best to engage with just about everyone. This one kid who claimed to be a Christian and I got into a conversation about the nature of God’s power.

He said, “I think that God is so powerful that he can go back and change the past.”

This was strange to me. I didn’t really know how to respond to him and so I let the conversation fall, but I kept thinking about it and later it seemed obvious to me, “Why wouldn’t God have just gotten it right the first time if He is so powerful?”

If you believe the Bible, then you believe that He did get it right the first time. One of the Scriptures the Westminster Confession uses to back this up is Eph 1:11, “…being predestined according to the purpose of Him who works all things after the counsel of His will.”

This and many other places in the Bible assure us that God has been in complete control since eternity. As confusing as the phrase “since eternity” can be, we believe somehow within the context of eternity God has ordained everything that is, was, and is to be.

This isn’t just some vague philosophical or theological statement. It’s all over the Bible, and I think it’s here, at least partially, for us and our comfort. How rarely do we see Jesus as the King of the Universe? Well, He is. He is also the intimate loving servant who comforts us in our trials. But in my opinion, it seems faulty, or at least insufficient to think of Jesus as only the lowly servant.

He also orders our lives (including every seemingly terrible thing in them) for His glory and our good. I turn to this King when terror strikes me because He not only knows, but truly understands my terror. He understands it because He experienced ultimate rejection and terror himself on the cross for my sins. I think three very important things should be held here.

  • Jesus is the Author and Sustainer of everything in the universe, including our suffering.
  • Jesus loves sinners like us, and proved it by entering into our suffering on the cross.
  • Jesus alone can truly understand and sympathize with us in our suffering.

The truth is that whatever else we turn to will inevitably let us down, because whatever that thing is, it didn’t authorize our suffering, and it doesn’t sympathize with us.

God Has All Life

From Kenny: Here’s yet another post from guest blogger Tim Price. Check out some of his other posts here.


I once got a tattoo on my arm. It is a wooden cross with a banner wrapped around it. The banner says “Music” and “Life.” When I got it I was a new Christian and didn’t really know why I got it, I just drew it once and it looked cool. Over time it has taken on new meaning.

The very last night I ever abused substances like drugs and alcohol I said something to myself that at the time I thought was very profound…

“You can take anything from me, but you can’t take away my songs.”

I had a lot of strange philosophies about music and life. For one, I thought they were both mine. I thought of all the things I owned, you couldn’t take my songs away because they sort of existed in a strange vein of reality, that is music. It’s not necessarily something you can just take out of my hand.

Secondly I believed so strongly that music itself could give me life. I thought music could give me life when in fact it was eating me alive, because it was a major idol in my life. It really did consume me, and I wasn’t even that good at it! Literally a few minutes after I recognized that my entire life came crumbling down and I begged God to have my life.

That was the day before my sobriety birthday.

This tattoo symbolizes for me now a sort of sacrifice of music and my life. I still enjoy both thoroughly! I haven’t become a gnostic and rejected all fleshy things or anything like that. I believe that in my sacrifice of these things I have come to love them both a greater capacity than I ever could have before.

I used to think I was great because I really appreciated nature. I would look at the sky in awe and it would sometimes get me through the day. But I never went beyond that in my thinking. Who gave me the sky? Who gave me the eyes to appreciate it?

I’ve never enjoyed life so much now that I know it doesn’t belong to me. Now that I know it’s his and that he created it all, I can look beyond these incredible created things to the Creator Himself and enjoy them as the gifts that they are.

We don’t have to rely on things that die to give us life. It’s all His and He is the source of it all.

Infinite in Being and Perfection


Here’s another guest post from Tim Price…

“There is but one only, living, and true God, who is infinite in being and perfection.”
Westminster Confession of Faith 1.1

A man named Joseph Campbell, a man with whom I don’t often agree, once said something that struck me. He said “Perfection is inhuman. Human beings are not perfect. What evokes our love — and I mean love, not lust — Is the imperfection of the human being.” (The Power Of Myth)

Whatever his intentions with a statement like this are, he has observed two profound truths about us. We struggle in relating to anything other than ourselves, and we are far from perfect. We are an egocentric breed to the fullest extent. So clearly, this makes it difficult for us to relate to God because he is vastly different from us in that he is infinite in being and perfection.

Of course the good news is that the Gospel says that God relates to us. He clothed himself in our flesh and dwelt among us. (John 1:14) That may be language you’ve heard before but do we really think about the reality of that? About true omniscience, the power of the universe, relinquishing the power of the universe to come and live the life that we should be live and die the death we deserve. As the old hymn says, He came “in helpless babe.” (In Christ Alone).

The truth is that God is infinitely incredible and loving and I’m mostly just me. He became like me to do amazing things for people like me. His amazing things aren’t the things I would think to do. His big things entailed him being handed over to be murdered in silence. The omniscient creator of this entire universe has decided to make his power known to us by becoming humble. We must worship him for all that he is. Powerful and humble. Meek and Mighty. (See Phil 2:1-11)

In one of C. S. Lewis’ books in the Narnia series Lucy finds herself wrestling with Aslan, “And whether it was more like playing with a thunderstorm, or playing with a kitten, Lucy could never make up her mind.” I think it’s important that we wrestle with every bit of who God is and praise Him all the while.

The Freedom of God and Man

Freedom of God and Man

From Kenny: Yet another guest post from Tim Price. Check out his last couple posts False Teaching and the Centrality of the Gospel.

God is free.

God is not governed by this world. Nothing in it dictates His will for it. Nothing that happens thwarts him or catches him off guard. He does whatever He pleases whenever He wants with the power of the universe in His hands. Can you imagine that? Can your brain actually come close to grasping the height and depth of this reality?

Although God is not governed by this world, He is actively working in it. And it is still here. This is dumbfounding. I mean, look at this world. If you had His power and took one look at our situation, wouldn’t you scrap it? Or at least start over? I probably would. I hate so many things here. I hate sin and the effects it has on us. I hate murder and adultery. I hate sickness and death. I think hating these things is appropriate, because the truth is that they’re awful. If I had power to rule the universe, I would certainly do something about this broken world with my freedom.

The good news is that God, in His freedom, has done something. He planned on doing something from the beginning (Gen. 3:15). And the even better news is that He is not me and isn’t doing something that an impatient self-righteous person like me would do. In His goodness, He made a plan. His plan is not to do away with us. It is not to abandon us. It is not to torment us. It is to save us and so much more.

In His freedom to do whatever He wanted with a bunch of rejects who rejected Him, He chose to live amongst us and to be the person He is. With infinite love, He freely chose to endure homelessness, rejection, hatred, torture to the point of death for us. This was an act He did that was entirely unconditional. He is conditioned to nothing but himself.

So when I hear about God being bound by no one and doing what He did, I know too that in the most paradoxical way, I am free in being a slave to him. How could someone who did what He did for us impose rules on us as if to put us back into a different kind of slavery. No, at the beginning of the ten commandments God says, “I am the lord your God, who brought you out of slavery.” Then He gives us the commandments. Obedience to him, then, is what freedom looks like. In obedience to the liberating God of this universe, I share in his freedom.

I am free.

What Do We Do with False Teaching?


From Kenny: Yet another guest post from Tim Price.

My last post was about an experience that got me riled up. It had to do with the harm false teaching can do to people. Someone posed a great question in response,

“What do we as Christians do about it?”

Is it really our job to “fix” everyones false beliefs about God’s word, and if so with what authority do we do it? We all know that person who thinks they need to go around challenging everything you say. We know him and don’t want to be him. So we retreat into ourselves and say nothing when we are face to face with false teaching.

Inside ourselves it’s easier to think loftily that “Our theology is superior to those blaspheming idiots.” We may not always be so blunt, but if we’re honest enough with ourselves… we often do.

When talking about people inside and outside the church, Peter says, “Bold and willful, they do not tremble as they blaspheme the glorious ones.” (2 Peter 2:10) Throughout second Peter he warns against false teaching, yet never tells us much more than about how they destroy themselves. In regards to us, he mentions protecting ourselves by supplementing faith with virtue, virtue with knowledge, and so on. . . Essentially saying be wise and remember the gospel. (2 Peter 1:5,6)

It seems to me we have a lot of advice in the bible about keeping our side of the street clean and letting the others destroy themselves. That or letting God do it on the day of judgement.

On the other hand, many (well most) of Paul’s letters are letters rebuking, arguing, and essentially “fixing” theology, always reminding them of Christ and Him crucified.

I know I don’t have the authority of Paul. But I do have what he has written as an authority to my brothers and sisters and I. I do believe we are called to love each other in the truth. Sometimes that might look like having a tough conversation with someone you don’t even know. Not always, and always in love not arrogance.

But what’s it worth to just sit in your head anyway? It seems more often the bold ones are shouting lies disguised as Christianity while we know the truth and get upset, yet hold on to the safety of silence. I think it’s worth talking through weirdness. I think it’s worth getting hurt or even yelled at by a potential maniac. It’s even worth looking like a fool.

It is great news and comfort to know that God works through our foolishness (1 Corinth 1:21).

Thus Saith the Lord?

From Kenny: This is another guest post from Tim Price. Tim’s a student at Belmont University and will be writing on my blog for the next few month as a part of his senior internship. Do us a favor and leave your comments below so that Tim can learn how to deal with a real, live internet fire storm.

thus saith the lordThe other day I got upset. I don’t usually get upset. Even before I was a Christian, I didn’t have much of a temper and always tried to look at the positive side of things. Sometimes to the point where it got unhealthily optimistic, like…

“Hey Tim your arm is on fire!”
“Oh Haha, I should probably put that out huh?”

I tried not to take life so seriously. It couldn’t hurt you as much that way.

So, this whole “getting angry” thing doesn’t happen often. But here I was, at a concert. It was great. I was with close friends. Music was good. All was well. At the end of the concert though, a man got up on stage and began to pray for everyone. The first thing he said was something about praying in the Spirit and “Spirit languages.” I used to be judgemental of this, but have since gained a better appreciation for the different veins of Christianity.

I prepared myself to listen and be healthily optimistic about this situation….

A lot of what he said was wonderful. He rebuked things such as depression, anxiety, addiction, and encouraged people to be honest about their struggles. Somewhere in the middle of this twenty minute prayer, however, he said something that lit me on fire in a bad way.

He said, “Tonight there is a girl in here who is struggling with depression.” This was not about someone he had just spoken to, it was a “prophetic word” about someone in the room. He went on to say, “The Lord says tonight you will no longer struggle with depression!”

At the words, “The Lord said,” my stomach turned. It took me awhile to figure out why I was so upset. As I calmed down I began to think of what I thought was wrong with what he said.

Here’s what I came up with.

That room was full of girls. What are the odds that many of them struggle with depression? So, even if what he said came true for that one girl, what do you think that does to all the girls that go home, still depressed, and realize that this guy’s “word” must not have been for them?

There are many conclusions they can come to.

  • I wasn’t lucky enough to be “chosen” to be set free tonight, maybe next time.
  • I’m not special enough.
  • I didn’t DO enough.

When speaking from a microphone, to shout something like that and tag it with a “Thus saith the Lord” without grounding any of it in Scripture is a great way to make yourself God. The problem is, God may never have said that girl wouldn’t struggle with depression anymore. In the Bible, He says many wonderful things about depression and what we should believe about it.

We need His Word, not ours.

I think the words this guy spoke can be incredibly harmful to those young girls who don’t understand much about how God works in us, with us, against us, and through us in our times of struggle. Do you agree?


Getting Clear on What Matters Most

Getting Clear on What Matters Most

Today’s guest post is from Tim Price. Check out his last one: Dusty Old Creeds and Why We Should Care About Them.

Let’s talk about Jesus.

The Bible is a book that is ALL about Jesus. This incredible story of God’s redemptive plan in history climaxes with the life, death, and resurrection of Jesus Christ.

This is really good news. In today’s world it is just far too easy to get wrapped up in arguments about “what Christians should believe about gay marriage, abortion, war, etc…” and to miss the whole point of our faith.

In the first chapter of the Westminster Confession of Faith we have an admittance that “All things in Scripture are not alike plain in themselves, nor alike clear unto all…”

Wait what?! Why wouldn’t they give us all the answers to the Bible?

That question kind of presumes that the Bible does give all the answers, but it doesn’t. In fact, Peter writes a letter explaining that a lot of what Paul says can be very confusing! (2PE 3:16) Of course scripture isn’t completely agreeable and clear to all. Have you read it? Jesus says some pretty strange and seemingly (or definitely) offensive things.

God is both knowable and mysterious. A good confession of faith or church creed doesn’t need to add anything to the Bible in order to clear up the mystery. It should let the perfect nature of God’s awesome and mysterious character be.

But what does the Confession go on to say? “…yet those things which are necessary to be known, believed, and observed for salvation are so clearly propounded, and opened in some place of Scripture or other, that not only the learned, but the unlearned, in a due use of the ordinary means, may attain unto a sufficient understanding of them.”

Don’t get me wrong! In no way am I discounting any of the legitimacy of the Bible. I just want to focus for a moment on the Gospel of Jesus Christ. In 1 Corinthians 2:2 Paul says to the church, “For I resolved to know nothing while I was with you except Jesus Christ and him crucified.” It is so easy for us to get caught up in many things and just “move past” the Gospel…

“Check, got it, what’s next?”

In actuality, the Bible doesn’t do that. The New Testament writers are continually bringing us back to that place and saying that it is everything to us! We always go back to the Gospel. Where is our hope in times of doubt, in trouble, and trial? It’s in knowing that God loves us right?

But how do we know He loves us? Because your pastor said so? No, it is because the Bible tells me so. (see what I did there?) It tells me this over and over again. But it certainly isn’t an obligatory statement for comforting us like a pill to get us through another situation. It says God loves us by telling us what He did for us.

And what He did for us was die for us. May we never forget.